i think that was a big piece of it. and i think it's additionally our ambivalence about being mothers, which is normal, that all women have some feelings of, you know, i wish i could go to a bar, i wish i didn't have to deal with this. so seeing those pictures of her return to her partying state stirred in us those ambivalent feelings we have as mothers that of course we're not going to act on but reminded us that we had those feelings. >> is that perhaps why it was so hard to get a conviction? that first notion you raised, which is mothers are so different, they nurture, they take care, they protect. >> yes. >> since there was no clear motive given, the notion that anybody, no matter how dark her character was at the end of -- the portrayal in this trial, somehow the jury couldn't get its arms around the fact she might have done this. >> i think the wish for there to be disbelief that a mother could be capable of that is there. and so if any window is opened, a juror may potentially take it. i think in addition, when y